Doug Henwood Talks

Jim Devine wrote:

Doug: >> I’m going to sound like I’m channeling James Heartfield here, but Carrol’s post is an example of the exhaustion and fundamental conservatism that has taken over much of the left … . I thought we were supposed to be about criticizing the quality of things and social relations under capitalism - not criticizing growth and change in themselves.<<

Yoshie: >Isn’t 99.99% of growth and change in the present stage of capitalism unnecessary, only selling disposable goods to disposable people who are compelled to work harder to buy more disposable goods, simply because fixing things doesn’t make profits?<

there’s no disagreement here, since Yoshie is criticiaize the quality of things — and social relations under capitalism.

I’d disagree with the “99.99%” part. I think computers and cell phones are pretty great. I’d agree with some of the disposability part, though Moore’s law mandates rather quick obsolescence.

Doug

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