Re: Cultural preferences inconsistent with fascism?(Re:Psychic TV — worth seeing?

On Oct 3, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:

Doug Henwood wrote: > >

I’m very sympathetic with this position, but as Hayek cogently pointed out, the normal space for economic planning under socialism or social democracy is the nation. How, in practical terms, do you run an economy with completely open borders?

Socialism exists in another world, with few links to the present one. (Its links to capitalist society are with the capitalist society that has collapesed in chaos.) Nence it’s fairly pointless to wonder how borders will be handled in a socialist society.

And it’s actually pointless to wonder how borders will work in the present society. We are not talking about blueprints. We are talking about the demands that must shape socialist practice and theory
inside a hegemonic capitalism. Blacks did not achieve “Freedom Now.” But they would not have achieved anything at all had they demanded anything
less than Freedom Now.

Yeah, I figured you’d say something like that, but things like a
welfare state are actual policies in the actual present world whose
normal scope is the nation-state. How do you run a welfare state
without a state? How do you get to your dreamland of “socialist
society” without confronting the contradictions of the present?

Doug

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