Re: Privelege Was Re: Re: Maoist cleanup drive hits
CB: Ignore the fact that to non-BDSM people, that some BDSM seems to simulate violent acts toward women, and therefore may feed into the misogynist mentality of men who beat/rape women.
It doesn’t. The burden of proof is on you to substantiate such an
assertion. Dominant male/submissive female is not the, um, dominant
form of BDSM; I don’t see how a minority discourse within a minority
discourse (and one that’s reached the public consciousness only in
the last decade or two) can have much of an influence on men beating
women, which is a pretty pervasive practice and has been for a long
time.
If you are trying to convince people that there isn’t misogynist mentality or torturer’s mentality in it, you need to think about the obvious,
and stop acting like it’s obvious how BDSM doesn’t seem like purveying violent mentality.
Appealing to the “obvious” isn’t much of an argument. You’re a
lawyer, Charles - what do you think a judge would make of that?
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CB: How do you know that ? Maybe most domestically violent men and
rapists are just sadists trying to bring out the “inner masochist” in the
women they violate ?
No. Most sadistic men (and women) wouldn’t harm someone who didn’t
very explicitly ask for it.
You need to explain in detail how BDSM/kink is not like domestic violence or rape.
In one, the recipient of abuse asks for it, even craves it. In the
other, s/he doesn’t. How could it be more different?