Re: Jocasta and Mary, was abortion poll bullshit
On Mar 10, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Chuck Grimes wrote:
abortion has been practiced by every society I ever heard or read about for all sorts of reasons
Yup. Even the Catholic church didn’t object until the 1890s.
Doug
March 10th, 2007 at 7:19 pm
The law is M.G.L.A . 272 § 19 and reads:
“Whoever, with intent to procure the miscarriage of a woman, unlawfully administers to her, or advises or prescribes for her, or causes any poison, drug, medicine or other noxious thing to be taken by her or, with the like intent, unlawfully uses any instrument or other means whatever, or, with like intent, aids or assists therein, shall, if she dies in consequence thereof, be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not less than five nor more than twenty years; and, if she does not die in consequence thereof, by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than seven years and by a fine of not more than two thousand dollars.”
This is a nineteenth century law that was never stricken from the books when abortion became legal, and has rarely been used in recent years. Nonetheless, prosecutors have used it to confine Ms. Abreu for three days while her impoverished family came up with some $15,000 bail.
Bruce
March 10th, 2007 at 7:21 pm
Abortion numbers are far too high…
Over 3,500 per day / Over 1.3 million per year in America alone.
50% of that 1.3 million claimed failed birth control was to blame.
A further 48% had failed to use any birth control at all.
And 2% had medical reasons.
That means a staggering 98% of unwanted pregnancies may have been avoided had an effective birth control been used.
There are an estimated 34 million women in need of contraceptive services in America — those who are not sterilized, pregnant or trying to conceive.
34 million…if the pill is 99% effective that means 1% of 34mill = 340,000 + 26,000 for the 2% = 366,000…………….
366,000 abortions per year..Doesn’t that sound better than 1.3 million…
And it could be even less, some of the implants are 99.9% effective….
0.1% of 34mill = 34,000 + 26,000 for the 2% = 60,000………WOW……..
1.3 million per year or 60,000 per year….
DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN GET AN IMPLANT (in arm)
THAT IS SAFE, 99.9% EFFECTIVE AND LASTS FOR THREE YEARS?
Implanon is new to the US but has been widely used in Aus for about five years.
The only bad report iv’e heard is if your a smoker you can’t use them due to increased risk of cardiovascular conditions.
Good incentive to give the cigs a miss…………
(not hard to work out which one I’d rather give up.)
Any way my daughter has one, and no problems, no pills to remember,and she is protected from unwanted pregnancies for three years.
(in fact our GP told my daughter they were 100% effective but they’ve left a 0.1% margin for error in case)
But wait, how do we get them all to use birth control, many I’ve encountered spit chips at the mere mention of the idea.
I know their are a number of people who can’t use birth control for one reason or another.
But is that true for all types of birth control,
there are many different types to choose from,
surely one to suite most every-one.
I would suggest that the number of people that can’t use any of them at all would be very small
but many use this as their reason.
If only people would choose to use birth control,
They wouldn’t have to make another choice……..
http://www.sexual-health-resource.org/hormonalbirthcontrol.htm
Cash payments for using birth control…………..
http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/02/project-preventionthe-road-as-opposed.html
March 11th, 2007 at 8:26 am
The Catholic Church has always been against the taking of human life, has never changed the immutable truth about the value of human life. Therefore, it always has been against abortion in the contextual definition of the taking of life.
Some time ago, it was not clear when human life begins; some said quickening. As science and medicine gained more knowledge, it determined that human life begins at conception, when the egg and sperm merge to become a new, unique human being. When science learned this, the Church accepted it — as it accepts any truth — and defined its objection to abortion to cover any life from the moment of conception. In fact, that is what the Church always has said; it’s just that the understanding of when conception is had evolved over the centuries.