Lou Dobbs fact-checked

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New York Times - May 30, 2007

Economix Truth, Fiction and Lou Dobbs

By DAVID LEONHARDT

The whole controversy involving Lou Dobbs and leprosy started with a =

=9360 Minutes=94 segment a few weeks ago.

The segment was a profile of Mr. Dobbs, and while doing background =

research for it, a =9360 Minutes=94 producer came across a 2005 news =

report from Mr. Dobbs=92s CNN program on contagious diseases. In the =

report, one of Mr. Dobbs=92s correspondents said there had been 7,000 =

cases of leprosy in this country over the previous three years, far =

more than in the past.

When Lesley Stahl of =9360 Minutes=94 sat down to interview Mr. Dobbs on =

camera, she mentioned the report and told him that there didn=92t seem =

to be much evidence for it.

=93Well, I can tell you this,=94 he replied. =93If we reported it, it=92s a= =

fact.=94

With that Orwellian chestnut, Mr. Dobbs escalated the leprosy dispute =

into a full-scale media brouhaha. The next night, back on his own =

program, the same CNN correspondent who had done the earlier report, =

Christine Romans, repeated the 7,000 number, and Mr. Dobbs added =

that, if anything, it was probably an underestimate. A week later, =

the Southern Poverty Law Center =97 the civil rights group that has =

long been critical of Mr. Dobbs =97 took out advertisements in The New =

York Times and USA Today demanding that CNN run a correction.

Finally, Mr. Dobbs played host to two top officials from the law =

center on his program, =93Lou Dobbs Tonight,=94 where he called their =

accusations outrageous and they called him wrong, unfair and =93one of =

the most popular people on the white supremacist Web sites.=94

We=92ll get to the merits of the charges and countercharges shortly, =

but first it=92s worth considering why, beyond entertainment value, all =

this matters. Over the last few years, Lou Dobbs has transformed =

himself into arguably this country=92s foremost populist. It=92s an odd =

role, given that he spent the 1980s and =9290s buttering up chief =

executives on CNN, but he=92s now playing it very successfully. He has =

become a voice for the real economic anxiety felt by many Americans.

The audience for his program has grown 72 percent since 2003, and CBS =

=97 yes, the same network that broadcasts =9360 Minutes=94 =97 just hired h= im =

as a commentator on =93The Early Show.=94 Many elites, as Mr. Dobbs likes =

to call them, despise him, but others see him as a hero. His latest =

book, =93War on the Middle Class,=94 was a best seller and received a =

sympathetic review in this newspaper. Mario Cuomo has said Mr. Dobbs =

is =93addicted to economic truth.=94

Mr. Dobbs argues that the middle class has many enemies: corporate =

lobbyists, greedy executives, wimpy journalists, corrupt politicians. =

But none play a bigger role than illegal immigrants. As he sees it, =

they are stealing our jobs, depressing our wages and even endangering =

our lives.

That=92s where leprosy comes in.

=93The invasion of illegal aliens is threatening the health of many =

Americans,=94 Mr. Dobbs said on his April 14, 2005, program. From =

there, he introduced his original report that mentioned leprosy, the =

flesh-destroying disease =97 technically known as Hansen=92s disease =97 =

that has inspired fear for centuries.

According to a woman CNN identified as a medical lawyer named Dr. =

Madeleine Cosman, leprosy was on the march. As Ms. Romans, the CNN =

correspondent, relayed: =93There were about 900 cases of leprosy for 40 =

years. There have been 7,000 in the past three years.=94

=93Incredible,=94 Mr. Dobbs replied.

Mr. Dobbs and Ms. Romans engaged in a nearly identical conversation a =

few weeks ago, when he was defending himself the night after the =9360 =

Minutes=94 segment. =93Suddenly, in the past three years, America has =

more than 7,000 cases of leprosy,=94 she said, again attributing the =

number to Ms. Cosman.

To sort through all this, I called James L. Krahenbuhl, the director =

of the National Hansen=92s Disease Program, an arm of the federal =

government. Leprosy in the United States is indeed largely a disease =

of immigrants who have come from Asia and Latin America. And the =

official leprosy statistics do show about 7,000 diagnosed cases =97 but =

that=92s over the last 30 years, not the last three.

The peak year was 1983, when there were 456 cases. After that, =

reported cases dropped steadily, falling to just 76 in 2000. Last =

year, there were 137.

=93It is not a public health problem =97 that=92s the bottom line,=94 Mr. =

Krahenbuhl told me. =93You=92ve got a country of 300 million people. This =

is not something for the public to get alarmed about.=94 Much about the =

disease remains unknown, but researchers think people get it through =

prolonged close contact with someone who already has it.

What about the increase over the last six years, to 137 cases from =

76? Is that significant?

=93No,=94 Mr. Krahenbuhl said. It could be a statistical fluctuation, or =

it could be a result of better data collection in recent years. In =

any event, the 137 reported cases last year were fewer than in any =

year from 1975 to 1996.

So Mr. Dobbs was flat-out wrong. And when I spoke to him yesterday, =

he admitted as much, sort of. I read him Ms. Romans=92s comment =97 the =

one with the word =93suddenly=94 in it =97 and he replied, =93I think that = is =

wrong.=94 He then went on to say that as far as he was concerned, he =

had corrected the mistake by later broadcasting another report, on =

the same night as his on-air confrontation with the Southern Poverty =

Law Center officials. This report mentioned that leprosy had peaked =

in 1983.

Of course, he has never acknowledged on the air that his program =

presented false information twice. Instead, he lambasted the =

officials from the law center for saying he had. Even yesterday, he =

spent much of our conversation emphasizing that there really were =

7,000 cases in the leprosy registry, the government=92s 30-year =

database. Mr. Dobbs is trying to have it both ways.

I have been somewhat taken aback about how shameless he has been =

during the whole dispute, so I spent some time reading transcripts =

from old episodes of =93Lou Dobbs Tonight.=94 The way he handled leprosy, =

it turns out, is not all that unusual.

For one thing, Mr. Dobbs has a somewhat flexible relationship with =

reality. He has said, for example, that one-third of the inmates in =

the federal prison system are illegal immigrants. That=92s wrong, too. =

According to the Justice Department, 6 percent of prisoners in this =

country are noncitizens (compared with 7 percent of the population). =

For a variety of reasons, the crime rate is actually lower among =

immigrants than natives.

Second, Mr. Dobbs really does give airtime to white supremacy =

sympathizers. Ms. Cosman, who is now deceased, was a lawyer and =

Renaissance studies scholar, never a medical doctor or a leprosy =

expert. She gave speeches in which she said that Mexican immigrants =

had a habit of molesting children. Back in their home villages, she =

would explain, rape was not as serious a crime as cow stealing. The =

Southern Poverty Law Center keeps a list of other such guests from =

=93Lou Dobbs Tonight.=94

Finally, Mr. Dobbs is fond of darkly hinting that this country is =

under attack. He suggested last week that the new immigration bill in =

Congress could be the first step toward a new nation =97 a =93North =

American union=94 =97 that combines the United States, Canada and Mexico. =

On other occasions, his program has described a supposed Mexican plot =

to reclaim the Southwest. In one such report, one of his =

correspondents referred to a Utah visit by Vicente Fox, then Mexico=92s =

president, as a =93Mexican military incursion.=94

When I asked Mr. Dobbs about this yesterday, he said, =93You=92ve raised =

this to a level that frankly I find offensive.=94

The most common complaint about him, at least from other journalists, =

is that his program combines factual reporting with editorializing. =

But I think this misses the point. Americans, as a rule, are smart =

enough to handle a program that mixes opinion and facts. The problem =

with Mr. Dobbs is that he mixes opinion and untruths. He is the heir =

to the nativist tradition that has long used fiction and conspiracy =

theories as a weapon against the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, =

the Jews and, now, the Mexicans.

There is no denying that this country=92s immigration system is broken. =

But it defies belief =97 and a whole lot of economic research =97 to =

suggest that the problems of the middle class stem from illegal =

immigrants. Those immigrants, remember, are largely non-English =

speakers without a high school diploma. They have probably hurt the =

wages of native-born high school dropouts and made everyone else =

better off.

More to the point, if Mr. Dobbs=92s arguments were really so good, =

don=92t you think he would be able to stick to the facts? And if CNN =

were serious about being =93the most trusted name in news,=94 as it =

claims to be, don=92t you think it would be big enough to issue an =

actual correction?

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